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Carbon Tax --> public transit
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David Dalton
2024-03-21 21:14:30 UTC
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Instead of the federal government giving back much of the Carbon
Tax in rebates, they should direct the money to improving public
transit nationally, including in rural areas.

For example, in recent years there has been a loss of Greyhound
in Western Canada, and that contributes to the ongoing crisis
of missing and murdered indigenous women and girls, since
many of them resort to hitchhiking.

On a local (Newfoundland) basis, several years ago there was
a loss of Fleetline bus, which used to operate on the coastal
Conception Bay Highway between St. John's and Conception
Bay North, and which was a valuable service fo students
travelling home for the weekend and for seniors and others
going into the city for medical appointments or shopping.

But of course there could also be an improvement in public
transit in urban (including small cities) and suburban areas.

And indeed, the planned transition to electric cars
is not practical; instead (or as well) there must be a
rapid evolution of private cars to public transit, probably
including shared/communal cars in less dense areas.

And I think the NDP and Green Party would support the
LIberals in such an initiative, maybe even to the extent of
forming a coalition before the next election.
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David Dalton ***@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)
Sharx335
2024-03-21 21:31:09 UTC
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Post by David Dalton
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Instead of the federal government giving back much of the Carbon
Tax in rebates, they should direct the money to improving public
transit nationally, including in rural areas.
For example, in recent years there has been a loss of Greyhound
in Western Canada, and that contributes to the ongoing crisis
of missing and murdered indigenous women and girls, since
many of them resort to hitchhiking.
On a local (Newfoundland) basis, several years ago there was
a loss of Fleetline bus, which used to operate on the coastal
Conception Bay Highway between St. John's and Conception
Bay North, and which was a valuable service fo students
travelling home for the weekend and for seniors and others
going into the city for medical appointments or shopping.
But of course there could also be an improvement in public
transit in urban (including small cities) and suburban areas.
And indeed, the planned transition to electric cars
is not practical; instead (or as well) there must be a
rapid evolution of private cars to public transit, probably
including shared/communal cars in less dense areas.
And I think the NDP and Green Party would support the
LIberals in such an initiative, maybe even to the extent of
forming a coalition before the next election.
Hell will freeze over before *I* "evolve" to public transit. It's
inconvenient, slow, not safe and takes a lot longer to get anywhere. 
Time for you eco-nuts to wake up and stop being so naive. The sky is NOT
falling. Climates have always been changing.  The best PRACTICAL way to
deal with so-called apocalyptic climate change is to reduce population
growth and to ADAPT, repeat ADAPT, and not to beggar the economies of
western nations. ANd look carefully at the lifestyles of your
hypocritical leaders, e.g. Trudeau, AL Gore, and the king of hypocrites,
David Suzuki.
RJH
2024-03-22 01:40:20 UTC
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Post by David Dalton
(Canada)
Instead of the federal government giving back much of the Carbon
Tax in rebates, they should direct the money to improving public
transit nationally, including in rural areas.
For example, in recent years there has been a loss of Greyhound
in Western Canada, and that contributes to the ongoing crisis
of missing and murdered indigenous women and girls, since
many of them resort to hitchhiking.
On a local (Newfoundland) basis, several years ago there was
a loss of Fleetline bus, which used to operate on the coastal
Conception Bay Highway between St. John's and Conception
Bay North, and which was a valuable service fo students
travelling home for the weekend and for seniors and others
going into the city for medical appointments or shopping.
But of course there could also be an improvement in public
transit in urban (including small cities) and suburban areas.
And indeed, the planned transition to electric cars
is not practical; instead (or as well) there must be a
rapid evolution of private cars to public transit, probably
including shared/communal cars in less dense areas.
And I think the NDP and Green Party would support the
LIberals in such an initiative, maybe even to the extent of
forming a coalition before the next election.
Hell will freeze over before *I* "evolve" to public transit. It's
inconvenient, slow, not safe and takes a lot longer to get anywhere.
In several European countries (and a few others) it's nothing of the sort. So
decent public transport *can* be done.
Post by Sharx335
Time for you eco-nuts to wake up and stop being so naive. The sky is NOT
falling. Climates have always been changing. The best PRACTICAL way to
deal with so-called apocalyptic climate change is to reduce population
growth and to ADAPT, repeat ADAPT, and not to beggar the economies of
western nations. ANd look carefully at the lifestyles of your
hypocritical leaders, e.g. Trudeau, AL Gore, and the king of hypocrites,
David Suzuki.
Partly right, for the wrong reasons (IMVHO).
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK
David Dalton
2024-03-22 01:46:06 UTC
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Post by David Dalton
(Canada)
Instead of the federal government giving back much of the Carbon
Tax in rebates, they should direct the money to improving public
transit nationally, including in rural areas.
For example, in recent years there has been a loss of Greyhound
in Western Canada, and that contributes to the ongoing crisis
of missing and murdered indigenous women and girls, since
many of them resort to hitchhiking.
On a local (Newfoundland) basis, several years ago there was
a loss of Fleetline bus, which used to operate on the coastal
Conception Bay Highway between St. John's and Conception
Bay North, and which was a valuable service fo students
travelling home for the weekend and for seniors and others
going into the city for medical appointments or shopping.
But of course there could also be an improvement in public
transit in urban (including small cities) and suburban areas.
And indeed, the planned transition to electric cars
is not practical; instead (or as well) there must be a
rapid evolution of private cars to public transit, probably
including shared/communal cars in less dense areas.
And I think the NDP and Green Party would support the
LIberals in such an initiative, maybe even to the extent of
forming a coalition before the next election.
Hell will freeze over before *I* "evolve" to public transit. It's
inconvenient, slow, not safe and takes a lot longer to get anywhere.
Time for you eco-nuts to wake up and stop being so naive. The sky is NOT
falling. Climates have always been changing. The best PRACTICAL way to
deal with so-called apocalyptic climate change is to reduce population
growth and to ADAPT, repeat ADAPT, and not to beggar the economies of
western nations. ANd look carefully at the lifestyles of your
hypocritical leaders, e.g. Trudeau, AL Gore, and the king of hypocrites,
David Suzuki.
I don’t mean current public transit, but an improved system
made feasible partly by increased usage.

Eventually I was thinking along the lines of a hyperloop
system backbone, perhaps partly funded by Elon Musk.
However there may need to be other short-term options.
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)
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